Amd prepares the "Granite Ridge" Granite Ryzen 9000-a series of restrictions, power limits, and power consumption, as well as Vachep performance to deliver the highest gaming performance.
According to leaks, AMD is planning a gigantic dual-cache Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 with 192MB of L3 cache that improves gaming
It's no secret that AMD is gearing up to refresh its Granite Ridge series of desktop processors, with several new models to solidify its market position, especially among OEMs. Chi11edog on Tuesday revealed specs for the top-of-the-line Ryzen 9000 series "Granite Ridge Refresh" processors, and if accurate, the new CPUs have a bigger cache than ever.will be
If the information from Chi11edog is to be believed, then the new lineup will be headed by the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2: a 16-core processor clocked at 4.30 GHz – 5.60 GHz and equipped with a whopping 192 MB of L3 cache (up from 128MB in case of the 9950X3D) as it will come with two 3D V-Cache chiplets (one chiplet per core chiplet die). The default thermal design power (TDP) of the CPU will reportedly increase to 200W from 170W on current models, but the processor's performance increase could be well worth it in applications that demand high memory bandwidth, such as games.
For gamers who do not want to invest a small fortune in a top-of-the-line CPU, AMD will purportedly offer the Ryzen 7 9850X3D. This eight-core CPU will run at 4.70 GHz – 5.60 GHz and feature 96 MB of L3 Cache using internal SRAM and an external 3D V-Cache chiplet. Since the CPU will differ from the existing Ryzen 7 9850X3D with a higher turbo clock, it will retain a default TDP of 120W.
Since the information comes from an unofficial source, it should be taken with a pinch of salt.However, refreshing the "Granite Ridge" line of the Ryzen 9000 series based on the Zen 5 microarchitecture makes a lot of sense for AMD, both from the point of view of technology and marketing strategies.
AMD's Zen 5 CCDs have been in the making for over a year, building on proven TSMC N4 manufacturing technology.Their scores are likely to be very high, allowing the company to safely increase clock speeds, increase power limits, and pack in more cache without spending too much on a redesign.In addition, the new Ryzen 9000 series processors will include AM5.Continuing to use the platform allows for upgrades for existing users, higher performance for those looking for a new desktop, and new models for PC makers who are more likely to sell something different than they did a year ago.
In short, the launch of Granit Ridge Refresh allows AMD to press additional performance out of the existing architecture without major investments or require partners to release new motherboards (the Ryzen 9 9950x3d2 is likely to need higher end platforms anyway).The renewal also acts as a precautionary strike against upcoming Intel statements, keeping AMD visible in the enthusiastic and gaming segments that demand every bit of additional performance.
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Ekio just got beat in one thread by the iPad's processor lol.reply
Inflate x86 and focus on risk-type ISA... -
TechSavi01 I will definitely say that when it is released!Just made myself an AM5 system with a 7800 X3D but double L3 to almost 200MB was not tolerated lol.And no dude, an iPad CPU can't beat AMD's performance, kidding you.Answer -
LabRat 891 I know that both 9900Xs and 9850Xs increase memory bandwidth by interfering with the IOD of the CCD.I wonder if this would be an advantage on a dual vCache CCD CPU.Probably not, because X3D is less affected by RAM performance anyway.
I know I'm not the only one who is about to buy a 9800X3D for lack of a better option.I'm 100% put off now.-
Do you play games that benefit from single-threaded performance on your iOS/macOS device?ekio said: Just for the iPad CPU to beat single-threaded perfection lol.
Forget the x86 bloat and focus on risky ISAs... -
Little is now one if closed as Limited.ekio said: just win in one line oiled by iPad CPU LOL.
Most material is made for multiple yarns as better blades.
And probably the reason why Apple does well on ST threads is a lot of the OS.By design, Windows is not that nice under the hood and it affects the hardware.(Also why Linux generally does better than Windows is because it's cleaner than Windows) -
Interesting 9850x3d sound (single CCD).The 9950x3d2 sound seems ok, but I wonder if it will hurt if there is pain if there is access to cacd1 in CCD1.This can cause more harm than good.At least with Gaming.techsavi01 said: I will definitely buy it when it comes out!I just built myself an AM5 system with 7800x3d but there are only two hidden values worth almost 200 MB lol irresistible.And no man, the iPad's CPU doesn't beat AMD's base performance, it's funny.
TheOtherOne I'm going to start taking care of my left arm, leg and one kidney.I will feed them well and keep them fat and healthy!Answer
When the time comes, what do I buy this new hardware without selling the above one?😑 -
BFG-9000 Logically, when you run out of cache, CPU performance will be limited by memory speedThus, more cache is great for games, as it becomes less, so the CPU works more at its full speed
The M5 has 33GB / s Bandwidth, which reduces the need for a structure that is strictly known as 'Xeonwers', which is probably better and better.In competition, less efficiency is more effective for the warehouse.You can say that Games often benefit from more storage because they are so good that purity is more important than bandwidth.
Usually these dual X3D CCD chips have the CCD equipped with V-cache 3D runs at slower clocks than the others (yes, even the 9000 series which has inverted cache), and with both CCDs with V-cache, both will run slower, so 9950X3D2 for some applications will still be slower than normal 9950X.The boost to 5.6GHz is slower than 9950X, but at least faster than the X3D CCD in 9950X3D.
At 192MB, the I7 has more L3 than the Core I7 5775C 4 years ago.That's just Edram, of course, but the old DDR3 platform remains a toy-competitor with the next intel ddr4 platform in the next 7 years.Here's hoping the 9950x3d2 lives a similarly useful life!-
rluker5 I think the 9800X3D will still be at the top in games because the 2 caches are separated and not combined.
If a core on one CCD caches an item, then the Windows scheduler assigns the next CPU task to the other CCD, provided the first task is not cached on the other CCD.Yes, you will have more cores that have cache, and 3D cache misses will be less than 50% of what you get with a single CCD that doesn't have a 3D cache, but it will still be more frequent than the 9800X3D.I believe dual cache averages can be even higher than single cache if the CPU packs down.
It still manages to be a good gaming chip, as the 9950x should be, as the 9950x should be, because it can sit 1% lower compared to the 9800x3D, with one CCD off, of course.
Edit: At best it works like a vram in SLI if both 3D caches match, and at worst when the CCD switches the cores have to fish in RAM.